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This mod let's you summon the Earth Troll, the Rock Troll and the Ice Troll.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8647/trollsfightingnw1.th.jpg

How to apply:

1. Backup your game.bin (\Fable\data\CompiledDefs\...)

2. Start Fable Explorer (found here).

3. Click 'File' and 'Load Fable Mod Package'

4. Select the Troll_Summon.fmp

5. Click 'Actions' and 'Save Mods and Run Fable'.

6. Don't start a game or load a save, but exit Fable again!

7. Start Fable again.

8. Let you current summon kill a Troll (I'd suggest an Earth Troll to start with, since this is the easiest to kill).

9. Now you can summon your Troll. Cool


IMPORTANT:

Note 1:
The summonned creatures are ranked to determine when to replace a summonned creature with a new one, according to rank.
Normally the wasp is the lowest ranked (#1) and the minion dreadwings the highest ranked (#29).
Now the Earth Troll is #30, the Rock Troll #31, the Ice Troll #32.

Note 2:
The Earth Troll and the Ice Troll don't walk, so if you have summonned one of them, they will stay in that place until you summon them again.
The Rock Troll on the other hand actually follows you after he stands up. This makes him my favourite... Twisted Evil

Note 3:
It's best to summon the Trolls between enemy's, because they won't stand up if there are no enemy's nearby.
Sometimes even then they won't stand up, just repeat the spell until the Troll does.

Note 4:
When you havn't learned the spell yet, the Earth Troll will be now the first creature you summon, instead of the wasp.

Note 5
The Trolls don't see you as an enemy, and therefore won't target you, but:
They also do damage to you! Everything a Troll throws at an enemy hurts you to if you're to close.
So be carefull and watch your troll.
The physical shield spell can counter this effect very good.

Note 6
Duration time for a summonned creature is set to 99 seconds in this mod (every level the same, so no need to upgrade your spell after level 1).

Note 7
It's big fun Very Happy


[EDIT] PROBLEM FIXED.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1640/48x48exit.png
this is not an exit.

[Updated on: Sun, 25 March 2007 13:47]

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17398 is a reply to message #17364] Sun, 25 March 2007 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keshire is currently offline  Keshire
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The Trolls can walk. You need to add the actions to the brains their using.

Open the Troll brains and then one of the Summoned Brains to see what they need. SG_MINION_FOLLOW_PLAYER is the important one though. I'd go so far as to remove the underground idle it's using.


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Re: Troll Summon [message #17403 is a reply to message #17398] Sun, 25 March 2007 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tried that, and only works for the Rock Troll. I've made custum brains for all trhee creatures.

Strange, but it should work for the Ice Troll to, since it has the anims - so I'll look into that one again.
The Earth Troll doesn't have the anims, so I don't think it can walk.

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[Updated on: Sun, 25 March 2007 23:42]

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17406 is a reply to message #17403] Sun, 25 March 2007 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OldBoy wrote on Mon, 26 March 2007 01:21

Tried that, and only works for the Rock Troll. I've made custum brains for all trhee creatures.

Strange, but it should work for the Ice Troll to, since it has the anims - so I'll look into that one again.
The Earth Troll doesn't have the anims, so I don't think it can walk.


Your correct. ICE and ROCK are the only ones capable of walking. The Earth Troll doesn't even have the actions defined in the CAppearanceDef.


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Re: Troll Summon [message #17407 is a reply to message #17406] Sun, 25 March 2007 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess I could add them with Silver's CAppearanceDefSucks (and it does) app.

[EDIT]
Messed with it some more, and the Ice Troll will not walk.
If someone finds a way it to make it walk, please tell me, cause it's been drivin' me crazy...

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1640/48x48exit.png
this is not an exit.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 March 2007 15:16]

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17913 is a reply to message #17407] Mon, 09 April 2007 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I discovered this first! it was in my sig.XD
Seriously, good work finding it out.

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17929 is a reply to message #17913] Tue, 10 April 2007 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StonedPilot wrote on Tue, 10 April 2007 00:46

I discovered this first! it was in my sig.XD
Seriously, good work finding it out.


I'm missing your point. Someone asked if it was possible to create a mod like this, so I made it for him/her. That;s all there is to it. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17930 is a reply to message #17407] Tue, 10 April 2007 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OldBoy wrote on Mon, 26 March 2007 01:54

[EDIT]
If someone finds a way it to make it walk, please tell me, cause it's been drivin' me crazy...


Removed Underground Idle, added Player Follow actions. This should do it for you. Wink


Apathy Cannot Inspire.
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Changed me. Killed me.
Anything would be something.
But nothing is worst of all.

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17946 is a reply to message #17930] Tue, 10 April 2007 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueTooth wrote on Tue, 10 April 2007 11:00

OldBoy wrote on Mon, 26 March 2007 01:54

[EDIT]
If someone finds a way it to make it walk, please tell me, cause it's been drivin' me crazy...


Removed Underground Idle, added Player Follow actions. This should do it for you. Wink


Did you also test it, cause I can't take a look at it now, no pc with fable near...

My mod also removes the Underground Idle, and ads some other actions (as stated above, the mod adds three custom brains for the summoned trolls). I've tested a lot of actions on all trolls to see which ones work and which don't.

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17958 is a reply to message #17946] Tue, 10 April 2007 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OldBoy wrote on Tue, 10 April 2007 14:42

BlueTooth wrote on Tue, 10 April 2007 11:00

OldBoy wrote on Mon, 26 March 2007 01:54

[EDIT]
If someone finds a way it to make it walk, please tell me, cause it's been drivin' me crazy...


Removed Underground Idle, added Player Follow actions. This should do it for you. Wink


Did you also test it, cause I can't take a look at it now, no pc with fable near...

My mod also removes the Underground Idle, and ads some other actions (as stated above, the mod adds three custom brains for the summoned trolls). I've tested a lot of actions on all trolls to see which ones work and which don't.


Ya. He followed just fine. Had an issue with him being invisible for some reason. But I chalk that one up to me messing with the summon coloring. I'll check again just to be sure though. It might be an action priority issue. I haven't messed with that much.


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Re: Troll Summon [message #17961 is a reply to message #17958] Wed, 11 April 2007 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, never messed with priority either...

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Re: Troll Summon [message #17962 is a reply to message #17961] Wed, 11 April 2007 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OldBoy wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 02:01

Ah, never messed with priority either...


Pretty sure this is what the 2nd Unknown in the Actions are:

enum EScriptAIPriority
{
	SCRIPT_AI_PRIORITY_LOWEST = 0,
	SCRIPT_AI_PRIORITY_LOW,
	SCRIPT_AI_PRIORITY_MEDIUM,
	SCRIPT_AI_PRIORITY_HIGH,
	SCRIPT_AI_PRIORITY_HIGHEST,
};


I'm also trying to link the 1st unknown to the CIdleSchedulerDef for the NPCs. Wink


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Re: Troll Summon [message #35229 is a reply to message #17364] Thu, 13 December 2007 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Umm okay I did everything u said to do, I killed a rock troll with my minion, and hes still a minion...
whats goin on? Confused

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Re: Troll Summon [message #35230 is a reply to message #35229] Thu, 13 December 2007 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Retired
Then the rock troll either needs a higher rank or he is not set to be summonable.

Edit: Made a correction.

[Updated on: Fri, 14 December 2007 20:54]

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Re: Troll Summon [message #35240 is a reply to message #35230] Thu, 13 December 2007 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Troll Summon [message #35274 is a reply to message #35229] Fri, 14 December 2007 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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monkeylx1 wrote on Fri, 14 December 2007 01:50

Umm okay I did everything u said to do, I killed a rock troll with my minion, and hes still a minion...
whats goin on? Confused


Try again.

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Re: Troll Summon [message #35276 is a reply to message #17364] Fri, 14 December 2007 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I went to File> Load Fable Mod Package>Troll_Summon.fmp in Fable Explorer, went actions>save mods and run fable, quit by pressing escape at the click to continue screen, clicked the OK button that i was done usin fable, went back to save mods and run fable, logged in, killed a rock troll with my minion in witchwood lake. Where did I make a mistake? Do I need to be more precise? I REALLY want to summon a rock troll! Very Happy

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Re: Troll Summon [message #35289 is a reply to message #35276] Sat, 15 December 2007 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I meant try killing a troll again. Sometimes it doesn't replace the summon for some reason. You could also go straight for the rock troll.

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Re: Troll Summon [message #35318 is a reply to message #35289] Sat, 15 December 2007 12:03 Go to previous message
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I've tried this mod and something strange happens,perhaps someone can explain...When my troll kills say a villager the game trashes because the troll tuns in to the person it killed,is this just my fault or is there a bigger problem

[Updated on: Sat, 15 December 2007 12:04]

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