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Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18816] Sun, 06 May 2007 09:22 Go to next message
HodgePodge is currently offline  HodgePodge
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The longbows in the game will now shoot decapitated heads instead of arrows. I've made 6 different .fmp's. One for yew longbow, one for oak longbow, etc. as well as an .fmp that includes all longbows in the game. Please post comments if you download.

*Note* The heads will not do any damage, hence the reason for including so many .fmp's. I'm sure there is a way to add damage, though changing their minimum damage in SHOT doesn't help, so if you know how, please feel free to post.

[Updated on: Sun, 06 May 2007 15:14]

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18817 is a reply to message #18816] Sun, 06 May 2007 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, not all 6 files could fit in the first post, so here is the sixth .fmp *starts taking screenies*.
Here are screenshots.index.php?t=getfile&id=2630&private=0index.php?t=getfile&id=2631&private=0

[Updated on: Sun, 06 May 2007 09:35]

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18844 is a reply to message #18816] Mon, 07 May 2007 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We labeled some fun stuff in the SHOT entries. You should play with them. Such as deflecting and bouncing. And some of the physicsDef.


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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18856 is a reply to message #18816] Mon, 07 May 2007 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Bluetooth I'll take a look at it. Very Happy
EDIT: So are you saying that there's no way to add damage, or that damage is controlled through the bounce and deflection?

EDIT2: Okay, I've been trying to add damage to the heads, but i've encountered a weird problem. It occured to me that the easiest way to add damage would be to use a regular arrow as the shot and simply replace IT'S mesh. However, after I replaced the mesh of OBJECT_SINGLE_ARROW (or something of the sort) with the decap'd head, it didn't work. I would fire the arrow and it worked perfectly except for the fact that it just went through the target. This leads me to believe that some kind of weapon data is controlled by the mesh, but I am by no means an expert. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone who reads this and who can either confirm or debunk this theory or who could provide any info at all post what they know so that I can improve this mod. Once again, thanks to all who post with any kind of info. Smile

[Updated on: Mon, 07 May 2007 17:32]

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18932 is a reply to message #18844] Thu, 10 May 2007 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So is there an easy way to make long bows shoot out all sorts of things? If so please let me know how Very Happy

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #18941 is a reply to message #18816] Thu, 10 May 2007 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sure, it's simple really. Just open up the bow you want to change in OBJECT and scroll to its cweapondef. Click the first link, and scroll down in that list to find Shot. Click on this and you will see the ID for the shot of the weapon. In longbows it is SHOT ARROW SINGLE. Now go into SHOT in the main list (from which you entered OBJECT) and find the shot that you wish to substitute. Then simply copy and paste its ID into the ID slot of the longbow's shot. Same goes for crossbows and repeaters, but the starting shots are different. Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask if you have any more questions. Smile

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19738 is a reply to message #18941] Tue, 05 June 2007 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so did any one find out how to make them do damage and not go though thing lol


would love an answer Smile Twisted Evil

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19757 is a reply to message #19738] Tue, 05 June 2007 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So would I. Believe me. It's weird that just by changing the mesh, no damage is caused.

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19793 is a reply to message #18816] Wed, 06 June 2007 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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actually, i think he changed the shot... Rolling Eyes

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19797 is a reply to message #19793] Wed, 06 June 2007 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At first I changed the shot, and that's what's posted. But then, after I realized that they didn't do damage, I tried simply swapping the arrow mesh with the head mesh. Yet, as soon as I did that, the arrows or "heads" ceased to do damage.

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19798 is a reply to message #18816] Wed, 06 June 2007 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, ya, i tried changing the stick to other items and it didnt work Confused

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19808 is a reply to message #18816] Wed, 06 June 2007 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The mesh needs:

http://fabletlcmod.com/wiki/doku.php?id=basics:model_hierarc hy#helpers

HPNT_weapon_pos_a Used for hit detection
HPNT_weapon_pos_b Used for hit detection

If it has those, make sure their listed in the CWeaponDef.


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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #19819 is a reply to message #19808] Thu, 07 June 2007 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fable24man is currently offline  fable24man
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and if thay dont have thos how dowe add it?

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #20209 is a reply to message #19819] Wed, 13 June 2007 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fable24man is currently offline  fable24man
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ok well i have mayde this mod and it will be in the darker fable mod and maybe if im aloud ill post a beta of the arrow headsindex.php?t=getfile&id=2869&private=0
  • Attachment: headshot.bmp
    (Size: 3.75MB, Downloaded 4230 times)

[Updated on: Wed, 13 June 2007 19:08]

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #20501 is a reply to message #20209] Wed, 20 June 2007 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HodgePodge is currently offline  HodgePodge
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And they cause damage? If so, pm the fmp to me and I'll replace the old ones in the first post. You'll get credit of course...

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #20523 is a reply to message #20501] Thu, 21 June 2007 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i acnt thay are for the darker fable mod

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Re: Heads Instead Of Arrows [message #20600 is a reply to message #20523] Fri, 22 June 2007 23:13 Go to previous message
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okey dokey. You get Good JOB fixed btw?

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