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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #42241 is a reply to message #42213] |
Wed, 11 June 2008 02:12   |
donlac
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Registered: June 2008
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I already set the directory to wide open permissions, but I just tried taking ownership too and that didn't seem to have any effect.
I don't know if its normal but the loading bar (when loading from a save) only fills about half way. The other oddity is that after the autosave, the screen goes black for 3-4 seconds, then the sounds start, then a second or two later, an image appears.
EDIT: I just reinstalled the game using a CD copy (instead of the DVD one) and the warning screen went away, but I still get the same laggy performance (and if I run, the ground textures don't load by the time I get to them).
[Updated on: Wed, 11 June 2008 04:21] Report message to a moderator |
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #42269 is a reply to message #42213] |
Wed, 11 June 2008 17:17 |
donlac
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I really doubt its anything hardware related (at least in terms of not enough power) but in case I am missing something:
AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition
nVidia GeForce 9600 GT
4 GB Corsair DDR2 (Dual Channel)
Western Digital Raptor 150
Windows Vista Business x64
I have no trouble playing Mass Effect at mid to high settings, so I doubt it could be lack of HP.
I tried updating to the latest nVidia drivers this afternoon with no effect. The problem really appears to be that the game is just not making a large enough game cache and/or not populating it in time.
Let me know if I missed anything which could be relevant.
Thanks.
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #42710 is a reply to message #42269] |
Sun, 15 June 2008 14:40 |
Geek
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well too much ram seems like a odd thing to happen
i had fable on my vista and it wasnt working well either lucky for me i had a old xp pc lieing around and it works great on it
are you runing a laptop?
ps. what did you pay for your pc?
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #42792 is a reply to message #42213] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 07:28 |
donlac
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I have an old XP machine too, I will try that whenever I get unlazy and get a video cable for it (my monitor has a DVI and a VGA input...but I only have a DVI cable which is now attached to the Vista box)
p.s. a little over a grand (everything except a new monitor/keyboard/mouse). I still need to get a storage drive (150 GB fills fast).
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #42935 is a reply to message #42213] |
Tue, 17 June 2008 17:03 |
donlac
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I called Microsoft Games support (I know, I didn't even know they had one) and two hours of India tech support later, it works. The only down side is I have to perform a "Clean Boot" (KB331796) and set the system memory to 2 GB (BOOT -> Advanced Options... -> Maximum memory).
From my testing later I found that I don't need an entire clean boot. I will test more later and try to find out what exactly is conflicting. I know now that its not the memory as the problems continued when I tried just lowering the memory and nothing else.
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43171 is a reply to message #42213] |
Mon, 23 June 2008 23:59 |
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SonnoMaku
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Registered: June 2008
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
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I didn't read any of the other posts but I think the problem is your 64 bit operating system or just cause it's vista. 
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43175 is a reply to message #42213] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 03:32 |
donlac
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Actually I have narrowed it down to RAM and Avira AntiVir. If I set the amount of ram down to 2GB and disable the AntiVir Workstation executable. I am not sure if this disables antivirus (the services are still running) or just the frontend. The 64 bit OS could still be part of the problem but I have no way of proving that (can't have 4 GB of ram in Vista 32).
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43184 is a reply to message #43175] |
Tue, 24 June 2008 21:41 |
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Satan
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| donlac wrote on Tue, 24 June 2008 11:32 |
can't have 4 GB of ram in Vista 32
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Yes you can.
There is nothing in the Void.
There is no point to it's being.
I wish there was a reason.
There is nothing in the Void,
But what we put there.
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43186 is a reply to message #42213] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 04:59 |
donlac
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Yes and no...Vista 32-bit with SP1 will report the whole 4 GB, but I haven't found anywhere that confirms it will be able to access all 4 GB of it. As http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 explains, 32-bit OSes can only see a maximum of 4 GB of memory, however, included in that value is the memory used by your video card (as well as other memory on the motherboard). This limits the maximum memory to less than 4 GB (around 3.25 usually). SP1 supposedly fixes this, but the KB article just says it "reports" the installed value, not anything about using it. Also in that same KB article the workaround for using 4 GB of memory includes "An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used."
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43188 is a reply to message #42213] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 07:20 |
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You will never address the full 4gb as part of it is allocated to the system. All Vista does is change the used ram to installed, a purely cosmetic effect as the addressing is still the same.
Anyways:
x86 Vista Ultimate runs Fable just fine with 4gb ram installed.
x64 Vista Ultimate runs Fable just fine with 4gb ram installed.
x86 XP Professional runs Fable just fine with 4gb ram installed.
There is nothing in the Void.
There is no point to it's being.
I wish there was a reason.
There is nothing in the Void,
But what we put there.
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| Re: Too much RAM? [message #43195 is a reply to message #42213] |
Wed, 25 June 2008 16:00 |
donlac
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That's not what I meant by using the whole 4 GB. Of course some will be used by the system, but in a 32-bit OS, the system can only address 4 GB, so the amount on your video card and any other amount built into the motherboard, daughterboards (with DMA), etc... are all subtracted from the 4 GB addressing, leaving you with empty (and unreachable) memory. With a 64-bit OS, you can page up to 2 exobytes, so the video card/motherboard/daughterboard/etc memory can be addressed in (a tiny fraction of) the extra space.
As to Fable running fine on x64 Vista w/4 GB of RAM, it might not have a problem on Ultimate, but it does on Business edition. As I pointed out before as well, Avira AntiVir seems to be conflicting with Fable in some manner as well. I did however try running the game with a "Clean Boot" and 4 GB of RAM and it still had a problem.
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