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Necromancer armor [message #48748]

Thu, 22 January 2009 06:46

jp_b46
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Registered: January 2009

[Updated on: Fri, 23 January 2009 08:08] by Moderator

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48750 is a reply to message #48748]

Thu, 22 January 2009 07:32

OldBoy
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http://fabletlcmod.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=9980&a mp;

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48770 is a reply to message #48750]

Thu, 22 January 2009 20:30

chaos
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Registered: May 2006

Nice set of armor. Don't be shy with posting the finished product. Very Happy

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/korgoth-of-barbaria/chaos-1.jpg

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48771 is a reply to message #48748]

Thu, 22 January 2009 20:52

Ralf of blades
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Registered: July 2008

he is a user of a website called http://fablemod.forosactivos.com/forum.htm I am a user of this site does not compare to this site of course good to the scheme so I do not know how to add these graphics andalusia CBox asked the help and did not give it very well say that someone could help

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48783 is a reply to message #48771]

Fri, 23 January 2009 03:43

JohnDoe
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Registered: October 2007

Retired

Aye. It's easy to see one word and assume you know the rest of the post. I do it myself several times a day (but 99% of the time we're right, so...).

He's using Blender. morerunes has written a great deal of material on working with Blender and Fable. BlueTooth and crazybunny have made some material on how to make the models work with Fable as well, though this was with 3DS. Still, take a look at it. I'll translate anything if needed.

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48785 is a reply to message #48748]

Fri, 23 January 2009 06:18

jp_b46
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Registered: January 2009

there is something else, i dont know how to make them work on fable

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Re: Necromancer spells (i dont know if it is possible) [message #48788 is a reply to message #48785]

Fri, 23 January 2009 07:44

JohnDoe
Messages: 3007
Registered: October 2007

Retired

The first thing that you need to know is format. The model must be in DirectX format for it to be imported with FableExplorer. CBox has an obj importer, I think, but I'm pretty sure that this is not finalized and cannot be used to get a functional animated mesh in Fable.

Next, you need to know the hierarchy.

Scene-Root
- (Name of model)
  - (Submeshes)
- (Root bone)
  - (Bones and associated helpers)
- Orphan_Helpers
  - (Helpers that don't go anywhere else)

This is how the frames need to be arranged in the model. Most apps allow you to do this with some sort of interface for it. Some others will require you to do it yourself using a text editor (cue headache).

Then, there's the type-specific model information.

Type 1 - Static models - Very simple. Swords, crossbows, buildings, inventory items, crates, barrels. I suggest sticking with weapons and inventory items since they don't have collision models that need to be edited alongside them.
Type 3 - Collision models - Currently, you'll need ChocolateBox to export them. These go with structures like bridges, tables, chairs, buildings, etc.. Pretty much anything the Hero can walk on and anything that gets in the Hero's way, stopping him. These are also sometimes suffixed with _CAM or [PHYSICS], or prefixed with CMESH instead of MESH, I believe there's another variant. These are easy enough to edit, different kind of hierarchy, and as long as you know what you're doing, this is just like static models.
Type 5 - Animated models - Clothing, bows, pump action crossbows, anything that has bones. Difficult because there are sometimes rather lengthy hierarchies, not to mention rigging the bones.
Dynamic mesh - No specific type because really they can be a part of anything. It's just a piece of the model that isn't tied down to bones, so it can move freely like a cape or hair or rope or a whip, etc. and so on. The problem is that FE doesn't support dynamic models, stuff become static on it's way out.
Types 2, 4 and 6 - Landscape, Particles and Animations, respectively - Not going to happen, at least not by you. Some of the landscape and particle models are viewable and are like static models, those are easy enough. Others... they don't even appear correctly in FE for me, and won't show up in DirectX viewer, and I can't import them into 3DS. Guessing that FE doesn't do well with these models, or it could be that my graphics are so messed up that they just don't show or work correctly. Animations, let's just not discuss that one.

Last thing I can think of is that rigged (type 5 - animated) models need to be weighted to the skeleton, the bones in the model. You can import corresponding pieces of existing armor and strip the meshes, then weight your model pieces to the bones left behind.

If you want to do any of this in Blender, get in touch with morerunes. He might help you. You can also read up on anything he's done with Blender. As I've said before, he's done a lot of written work with it which makes for a nice knowledge base. If you need any part of this or anything else translated or explained, let me know. I'm the guy for Spanish<->English.

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