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Re: ChocolateBox [message #69145 is a reply to message #69132]

Thu, 18 July 2013 21:59

JohnDoe
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Registered: October 2007

Retired

OnlyABlade wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 14:07

Amm...
Wait... is posible make a new map without Crash?

Read my posts. Neutral

It's possible, if you bypass the STB by not using it.

Sparrow wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 14:34

Why isn't this in the tutorials section?

Because it's not useful. No landscape is no way to play the game.

Sparrow wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 14:44

But since baystone can extract the meshes, we could make the terrain an object.

We could, but:

this drastically increases loading time;
quality is dramatically reduced;
creating that many objects per map and getting them all set up right is a tedious, time-consuming pain in the ass;
object-based landscapes tend to disappear up close if made too large; and,
variable geometry seriously affects the Hero's ability to walk around.

Zyreq wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 15:24

That could work since Navdata is held in tng files right? Confused

No. LEV files. The ones out of the WAD, not STB. I guess what you're getting at still applies though.

Sparrow wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 15:42

Okay, half of the time that I load a save, it crashes. But when it doesn't crash, it crashes when I teleport to the new level.

It definitely requires a new save.

JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 18 July 2013 01:52

Create these entries.

I used greatwood entries. Is that okay?[/quote]
No. Create new entries. The text and minimap can have the same data and everything, but they do need to be different. The region def is the important one. You'll want the data in that to have the same information as the data for the new region defined in the WLD.

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		ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Mon, 26 May 2008 09:06
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Tue, 27 May 2008 02:03
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Wed, 04 June 2008 19:24
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Wed, 04 June 2008 23:05
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Thu, 05 June 2008 12:35
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Silverback on Mon, 02 June 2008 14:04
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Sun, 08 June 2008 02:50
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Sun, 08 June 2008 11:24
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Sun, 08 June 2008 11:46
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Sun, 08 June 2008 12:18
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Silverback on Sun, 08 June 2008 15:10
		Re: ChocolateBox By: driftking7050 on Wed, 11 June 2008 05:11
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Wed, 11 June 2008 22:52
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Thu, 12 June 2008 02:29
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Thu, 12 June 2008 07:52
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Thu, 12 June 2008 08:49
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Thu, 12 June 2008 08:51
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Thu, 12 June 2008 11:54
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Thu, 12 June 2008 12:49
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Thu, 12 June 2008 23:33
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Sat, 14 June 2008 18:31
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Mon, 16 June 2008 00:26
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Wed, 18 June 2008 03:03
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Mon, 08 December 2008 08:43
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Wed, 22 April 2009 04:26
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Wed, 22 April 2009 05:54
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Wed, 22 April 2009 18:44
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Mon, 29 June 2009 16:03
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Fri, 10 July 2009 03:02
		Re: ChocolateBox By: nicomon on Tue, 21 July 2009 14:42
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: Steak21 on Mon, 03 August 2009 20:40
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Mon, 03 August 2009 20:52
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Steak21 on Mon, 03 August 2009 22:01
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Tue, 04 August 2009 09:50
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Steak21 on Tue, 04 August 2009 21:11
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Fri, 07 August 2009 11:41
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Noctus on Fri, 21 August 2009 17:10
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Fri, 28 August 2009 08:16
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Sun, 06 September 2009 10:58
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Mon, 21 September 2009 16:45
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Tue, 22 September 2009 18:02
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Fri, 16 October 2009 04:10
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Sat, 17 October 2009 08:45
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: Darkshade on Wed, 15 September 2010 10:18
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Wed, 15 September 2010 11:11
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Tue, 18 June 2013 15:30
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Mon, 24 June 2013 08:13
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Mon, 24 June 2013 13:10
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Mon, 24 June 2013 16:41
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Mon, 24 June 2013 16:52
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Mon, 24 June 2013 18:03
		Re: ChocolateBox By: DarkONI on Mon, 24 June 2013 18:39
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Zyreq on Mon, 24 June 2013 20:00
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Tue, 25 June 2013 00:34
		Re: ChocolateBox By: morerunes on Tue, 25 June 2013 08:43
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Tue, 25 June 2013 20:10
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Wed, 26 June 2013 11:53
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Wed, 26 June 2013 14:09
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Wed, 26 June 2013 14:54
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Wed, 26 June 2013 16:08
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Thu, 27 June 2013 19:46
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Tue, 16 July 2013 21:14
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Tue, 16 July 2013 22:37
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Wed, 17 July 2013 06:43
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Wed, 17 July 2013 13:28
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		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Thu, 18 July 2013 12:34
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Thu, 18 July 2013 12:44
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Zyreq on Thu, 18 July 2013 13:24
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Sparrow on Thu, 18 July 2013 13:42
		Re: ChocolateBox By: JohnDoe on Thu, 18 July 2013 21:59
		Re: ChocolateBox By: OnlyABlade on Thu, 18 July 2013 12:07
		Re: ChocolateBox By: Zyreq on Thu, 18 July 2013 23:48
		Re: ChocolateBox By: BayStone on Sun, 11 August 2013 07:17
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