* Peter_Molyneaux builds an evidence log
* Keshire burns the Molyneaux Empire to the ground...
* Keshire then pisses on the ashes singing a merry tune
* Peter_Molyneaux claims on his vast insurance policy
<Peter_Molyneaux> You aren't the first to try and sha'nt be the last
* _Satan_ updates sig
* Peter_Molyneaux returns to his Ivory tower
* Peter_Molyneaux has left #fable

<marcopolomd> so how did you guys learn how to doo al of this stuff
<Keshire> Trial and Error
* Pe_Ell finds a hammer
<marcopolomd> where do i find the bin files
<Keshire> You have to request them from the fable server
<marcopolomd> i dont believe you
<marcopolomd> ive learned not to
<Keshire> Suit yourself then
<marcopolomd> well if you are telling the truth how di i get them
<Keshire> You have to send a query request to the fable server
<marcopolomd> i would have thought that they wold be in the program fi;es
<Keshire> from the command line while the game is running
<marcopolomd> ?
<Keshire> No their binary files.
<marcopolomd> ?
<Keshire> You have to request them from the exe
<marcopolomd> ?
<Silver> ask jeeves
<marcopolomd> clueless
<Silver> I got mine from him
<Keshire> You think binary files just appear out of thin air?
<marcopolomd> so it is more of a tool
<Keshire> No command line arguements
<marcopolomd> so they work ingame
<Keshire> Or an entry in the ini to output them
<marcopolomd> woosh
<Silver> wooooooooooooooooooooosh!
<Silver> I'm going to just convert the short to Unsigned
<marcopolomd> is there a simple way to explain it
<marcopolomd> simple stupid
<Keshire> Either you use the command line to send a query request to the fable server in the exe. Or you can add a line to the ini to output them to the directory of your choice
<Silver> program was bitching at me with signed and it reads signed but not unsigned so once you edit it as unsigned it won't re-read file
<marcopolomd>  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
* Pe_Ell sets mode: +o Keshire
<Silver> but I didn't push file far enough to tell.. so dunno
<marcopolomd> so if i want to learn i have to use trial and error
<Keshire> Ok Marco go to start=>run
<marcopolomd> oh
<marcopolomd> cmd
* Silver slaps himself
<Keshire> Yes
<marcopolomd> so whaT DI I TYPE IN
<marcopolomd> oops
<Pe_Ell> "rm -rf /*"
<Pe_Ell> oh wait...  that's unix
<marcopolomd> ?
<Silver> hehe
<Keshire> type in query request fable.exe please may I have the bins
<Pe_Ell> hahahaha
<Silver> that won't work
<marcopolomd> im not that stupid
<Silver> you are supposed to say this:
<Keshire> It works. The exe can parse the strings
<Silver> path:  to fable exe.. fable.exe -please -bin
<Keshire> Or you could use the switchs
<Keshire> I prefer the strings though
<marcopolomd> so type fable.exe -please -bin into command prompt
<Silver> yeah
<Keshire> Ya.
<marcopolomd> ok ill go try that
<Keshire> Make sure your in the directory though
<Keshire> program files/microsoft games/fable
<marcopolomd> it says its unrecognized
<Silver> YOU TYPED IT WRONG!
<marcopolomd> can you type it so i can copy past it
<Silver> great now it won't work
<marcopolomd> please
* Pe_Ell hurts himself laughing
<Keshire> cd c:/program files/microsoft games/fable tlc/fable.exe -please -bin
<marcopolomd> ok jusec
<Keshire> You have to run it fromt eh directory
<Keshire> jeez
<Pe_Ell> your command was wrong kesh
<Keshire> I'm sur ethe directory might be off
<Pe_Ell> I was referring that you had the "cd" and the command on the same line
<Keshire> or are you refering to the change directoy command?
<Silver> I'm on Windows 95 and it works
<marcopolomd> so the above is wrobng?
<Keshire> Ya realized that
* Pe_Ell whips out windows 3.1
<Keshire> You don't need the cd
<marcopolomd> ?
<Silver> c:/program files/microsoft games/fable tlc/fable.exe -please -bin
<Keshire> ya
<Keshire> or whatever the directory is
<Silver> you can try   -output .txt         -source code        as well
<marcopolomd> so type that into the command prompt window
 <Keshire> Yes
<marcopolomd> and then what
<Keshire> Did you get any error messages?
<marcopolomd> im typing it now
<marcopolomd> jusec
<Keshire> -dev -logon should allow the drop down menu too
<Silver> login as Simon 
<Keshire> There's a ton of switches that we haven't even used yet
<Keshire> I thint he login is actuall scarter
<Silver> yeah
<Keshire> for Simon Carter head coder
<marcopolomd> oit says c:/program is not recognised as an internal or external command...
<Silver> try this:
<Silver> my personal favorite    is     fable.exe  -Why did you Fall for this???????
<Keshire> lol
<marcopolomd> aargh
<Silver> XD
<marcopolomd> i hat you
<marcopolomd> hate
<Keshire> In your fable directory there's a directory called compiled defs
<marcopolomd> oh its in there
<marcopolomd> ok
<Keshire> You'd think you would have noticed it
<marcopolomd> oi didnt know where to look
<marcopolomd> ha so my instinct was right
<marcopolomd> liar
<marcopolomd> got it
<marcopolomd> so do i use notepad to open them
<Silver> lol

<Marcopolo> i know that i should know this but what does one byte represent
<Kes|Work> bane of my existance
<Kes|Work> 1 byte represents a byte
<Hunter> lol
<Hunter> 8 bits
<Marcopolo> how many numbers or characters or letters
<Hunter> 1 character, 2 hex digits
<Marcopolo> i know 
<Kes|Work> I think I'm going to cry
<Hunter> lol
<Marcopolo> but 2 hex digits = how many bytes
<Hunter> 1
* Silver slaps himself

<Kes|Work> AH Ha. Found the shop keeper to use
<_Satan_> nice
<Kes|Work> k, I'm satisified
<_Satan_> really ?
<Kes|Work> Well mostly.
<Kes|Work> CShopDef starts off with what text to use for buying, selling, and turned down.
<Kes|Work> Then an item count, and then items
<Kes|Work> then shop keeper to use
<Hunter> haha, nice
<_Satan_> so can we use any creature of just use the default shopkeepers
<Kes|Work> And then a whole bunch of floats
<Kes|Work> Basically
<_Satan_> stock level, etc
<Kes|Work> Probably
<Kes|Work> We can change the shops however we like
<_Satan_> sweet
<Kes|Work> We can make a new Building, define the items and shopkeeper to use and how well its stocked
<Kes|Work> All those new weapons I'm adding....
<_Satan_> lol
<Kes|Work> They'll be sold by me.
<_Satan_> literally =)
* Kes|Work Adds a new CHasNameDef
<Kes|Work> "Hello, My name's Keshire, How my I help you?"
<_Satan_> I was expecting you to import a model of yourself
<Hunter> lol
<_Satan_> =)
<Kes|Work> "Oh I got plenty of weapons and armor!"
<ninjakarl> haha
<Kes|Work> "Yes this is Maze's outfit! I stole it off his dead corpse!"
<_Satan_> Its only slightly bloody
<Kes|Work> I can do a model of myself too
<Kes|Work> I think I have one somewhere
<ninjakarl> Gentlemen we've prepared for this day. Kesh has gone off the deepend. Everyone into your escape pods

<Kes|Work> None of this would be possible without Hunter originally decompressing the lzo...
<Kes|Work> That was our defining pwned moment
* _Satan_ bows in the prescence of Hunter
<Kes|Work> I don't even think he's a real person. Pe created him out of the tears of the bitter Fable user base
<_Satan_> and weaved the souls of many a disenchanted fable dev into the mix
<Kes|Work> Yep

<Silver> well I guess we'd better signal the ninja....
<Silver> You know what to do
* ninjakarl jumps to attention
* Kes|Busy flashes ninja signal!
<ninjakarl> :shiftyninja:
<Kes|Busy> so fast he jumped before i acted...
<ninjakarl> darn tootin
<ninjakarl> sup?
<Kes|Busy> Kill lionhead.
<Kes|Busy> Not just one person. The entire company
<ninjakarl> as good as done
<Kes|Busy> I want thier logo on my front porch
<Silver> and get all the meals they ate back
<Silver> Also if they have lawns, kill that as well
<ninjakarl> Sir, yes sir

<Satan> its always worth pointing out Lionheads shortcommings
<Silver> maybe if they spent more time creating a basic table file system they could actually make a game
<Satan> and not waste a file format
<Silver> If I could make the file go 88 mph I wouldn't be suprised to see it time travel

<Satan> you know that experiment you do in school whee they power a tiny lightbulb by connecting it up to a potato ?
<Silver> yeah
<Satan> i doubt that would work with either of them
* Satan plugs electrode into Marcopolo's head

<Satan> * _Satan_ wanders off for a smoke, leaving ninjakarl on guard and a few rattles and things for the children to play with
<Satan> * ninjakarl rawrs
<Satan> <Marcopolo> i could take you
<Satan> <Marcopolo> my site bio: all yo need to know is im bigger than you
<Satan> <Marcopolo> ^you
<Satan> <_Satan_> size is not all in a fight dumbass
<Satan> <Marcopolo> yeah i i know 
<Satan> <Marcopolo> but it sure helps
<Satan> <_Satan_> not always
<Satan> <Marcopolo> depends i guess
<Satan> <Marcopolo> also depends if the other person is light or not
<Satan> <Marcopolo> karl how tall are you
<Satan> <ninjakarl> Near 6 foot
<Satan> <Marcopolo> i win 
<Satan> <Marcopolo> 6'3"
<Satan> <_Satan_> karl: punish him
<Satan> <ninjakarl> You're a bohemoth
<Satan> <_Satan_> behemoth
<Satan> <Marcopolo> yep
<Satan> <ninjakarl> BOHEMOTH
<Satan> <Hunter_> 14 yrs old, 6'3", 14 fingers ...
<Satan> <Marcopolo> hehehe
<Satan> <_Satan_> and a tiny johnson
<Satan> <Hunter_> lol

<Satan> <_Satan_> no
<Satan> <Marcopolo> yes!
<Satan> * Marcopolo slaps Marcopolo around a bit with a large trout
<Satan> <Marcopolo> now you smell fishy
<Satan> <Marcopolo> bye
<Satan> <Hunter> lol
<Satan> <Keshire> lol
<Satan> <_Satan_> wonder how long it'll be till he realises he slapped himself
<Satan> <Hunter> too long

<Silver> you need to put them in the logs
<ninjakarl> quote database
<Keshire> Ya. Thread's not locked.
<Keshire> Add'em
<ninjakarl> There's a thread?
<Satan> thats gotta go in there
<Keshire> O.o
<ninjakarl> link?
<Keshire> Site discussion stickied thread
<Satan> site discussion
<Keshire> Been there for months
<Satan> thats being put in there now
<ninjakarl> k
<Keshire> O.o
* Keshire shakes head

[05:32] Silver: PM would hype solitaire
[05:32] Silver: it has the most realistic wearing of cards ever seen before!
[05:32] Satan: he did
[05:33] Marcopolo: lol
[05:33] Satan: only he promised that it was going to be multiplayer
[05:33] Silver: I only got Hearts :(
[05:33] Satan:  and have user customised decks
[05:33] Marcopolo: lol
[05:33] Satan: and a secret card that no one had ever seen
[05:33] Satan: then he passed out
[05:34] Silver: THE RULE CARD!
[05:34] Silver: shit it slipped
[05:34] Satan: i think it was due to the air he was breathing being full of the fumes of his own faeces
[05:34] Marcopolo: lol
[05:36] Keshire: lol