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Here's a test render of the Wolf Hood Model. Feel free to critique.

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@ Darkenend Souls peoples: anything in particular you'd like to say on it?

@ The community in general: anything you'd like to see on a wolf head hat?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32649 is a reply to message #32647] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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looks pretty nice

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32655 is a reply to message #32649] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it looks a bit too clean, like it was made with foam and not cut off a wolf, make the hero look like a furry Razz

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32656 is a reply to message #32655] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I've been thinking about that - I think I slide some edges out of the mesh that can be textured to look like excess fur (the same way the parts of the balverines are done.

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the nose it too rounded, .

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32659 is a reply to message #32657] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay - I'll go look at some reference photos (likely should have done that earlier on...)

Well, after looking at some reference photos it looks like the mussel is to think and as Marco pointed out the nose is to round or too flat depending on which way you want to phrase it. Also looks like the ears should be twisted to face more out instead of forward.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32662 is a reply to message #32647] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The ears would be pretty much folded over.

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Yeah I've been contemplating how best to do that without using a mini-rig. The rig method would look the nicest but would also take the most effort and vertex transforms will require more polys... which I'm trying to avoid.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32677 is a reply to message #32647] Mon, 22 October 2007 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Polys make Fable cry.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32680 is a reply to message #32677] Mon, 22 October 2007 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Satan wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 18:46

Polys make Fable cry.


Confused

As in I should perhaps try and get that down to 2500?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32683 is a reply to message #32680] Mon, 22 October 2007 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Grog_McGee wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 23:50

Satan wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 18:46

Polys make Fable cry.


Confused

As in I should perhaps try and get that down to 2500?


I couldn't tell you to be honest. I just figure that the game probably won't take to high poly models too kindly. For all I know your model could be perfectly acceptable.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32685 is a reply to message #32683] Mon, 22 October 2007 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Polys tend to make most games cry and the majority of stuff that I do for not fable is done for offline rendering which means characters with 20000+ polys. Which would make fable go blamo on most computers... the hero is like 4000.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32698 is a reply to message #32685] Mon, 22 October 2007 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That looks awesome! However, I think it's a bit too perky Razz Try elongating the fangs a bit, though a good texture should make it look nice and evil Wink

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32714 is a reply to message #32698] Mon, 22 October 2007 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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put blood spots on it when you get a texture make it look like it was a tough fight to get it Very Happy

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32724 is a reply to message #32698] Mon, 22 October 2007 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HodgePodge wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 20:10

That looks awesome! However, I think it's a bit too perky Razz Try elongating the fangs a bit, though a good texture should make it look nice and evil Wink


Yeah I've done a bunch on it, I've got a version now that has random polys sticking out that could be textured like the stick out fur on the balverines... not entirely satisfied with it though. I'm going to see what I can do with Maya fur - see if I can't create some sort of reasonably low poly model with real fur on it... It might work...

And yeah it does look very perky.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32759 is a reply to message #32647] Tue, 23 October 2007 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm... This is a stupid idea, but why not go all Albion on the idea and make a Balverine hood? It would probably score some good scariness points too now that I think about it.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32762 is a reply to message #32759] Tue, 23 October 2007 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Moddex wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 10:08

Hmm... This is a stupid idea, but why not go all Albion on the idea and make a Balverine hood? It would probably score some good scariness points too now that I think about it.


It is true that such a thing would be more thematically sensible... I'll perhaps do another one that is more balverine-y. Though, if were going to do that. It would be easier to just grab the balverine model slice off it's head and scale and cut it to fit the hero's head. Something that anyone who has a 3d program can do (since it requires no actual modeling skill).

In general I'm doing this not out of the generosity of my heart or for the neatness of it for fable, but for the practice at 3d work. I need more character modeling practice.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32779 is a reply to message #32647] Tue, 23 October 2007 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, i love it, my only ideas are, make it slightly more wolfish, maybe add horns Twisted Evil Razz and...idk, make it less polys maybe, but its incredible so far

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32780 is a reply to message #32647] Tue, 23 October 2007 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks kinda like that dog entry. The head anyway.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32783 is a reply to message #32779] Tue, 23 October 2007 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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groo wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 16:31

well, i love it, my only ideas are, make it slightly more wolfish, maybe add horns Twisted Evil Razz and...idk, make it less polys maybe, but its incredible so far


Horns Confused - yeah I'll work on lowering the poly count.

sepheroth479 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 16:32

Looks kinda like that dog entry. The head anyway.


Any suggestions on getting it more wolf like?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32810 is a reply to message #32647] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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square off the nose a little, and I disagree with blood spots, the hero would wash it off, if there are blood spots, ima retexture it.

edit: looks pretty good though

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32852 is a reply to message #32647] Wed, 24 October 2007 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Square off the head. It's too bulbous.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32853 is a reply to message #32852] Wed, 24 October 2007 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, it's too rounded.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32855 is a reply to message #32779] Wed, 24 October 2007 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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groo wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 21:31

make it slightly more wolfish, maybe add horns


How can you say make it more wolvish and then say to add horns. The two don't go together unless you've been looking at some very strange wolves.

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Satan wrote on Wed, 24 October 2007 07:05

groo wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 21:31

make it slightly more wolfish, maybe add horns


How can you say make it more wolvish and then say to add horns. The two don't go together unless you've been looking at some very strange wolves.

make the face more wolfish, and add horns Razz yes i look at strange wolves, dont discriminate!

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32857 is a reply to message #32647] Wed, 24 October 2007 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Horns will look completely out of place.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32859 is a reply to message #32857] Wed, 24 October 2007 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm going to have to agree horns would seem somewhat out of place.

Blue, that is scariest wolf picture I have ever seen (the second one). *Shivers*

The floppy ears kinda bug me... they make it seem so cute and cuddly...

Suggestions?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32867 is a reply to message #32647] Wed, 24 October 2007 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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can I see a back view?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32870 is a reply to message #32867] Wed, 24 October 2007 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'd say make the ears a tad longer and fold them a bit closer to the head, and yeah make it smaller, tighter to the hero's head and like blue said less bulbous

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Marcopolo wrote on Wed, 24 October 2007 18:39

i'd say make the ears a tad longer and fold them a bit closer to the head, and yeah make it smaller, tighter to the hero's head and like blue said less bulbous


I'm on it.

Update:
  • Front, Side, and Back views.
  • Extended Ears and folded them more
  • Attempted to flatten the face and head ...
  • Lengthened the jaw


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umm a bottom half to the jaw that maybe hangs at the neck or something

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lookin pretty good! Surprised

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NEOCHICKEN wrote on Thu, 25 October 2007 09:43

umm a bottom half to the jaw that maybe hangs at the neck or something


While that might look neat we can't do dynamic meshes so it wouldn't bounce around, which would, in the end, make it look really strange, I suspect.

Further modeling a matching lower jaw would be a real pain in the a** at this point in time.

morerunes wrote on Thu, 25 October 2007 12:27

lookin pretty good! Surprised


Thanks Smile

Going to thicken up the ears and do some more debulbousing of the head.

Debulbousing, damn that's a sweet soundin' word.

The back of the hood bores me. Would it be stupid/silly to build some spine into the back of the hood?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32932 is a reply to message #32907] Thu, 25 October 2007 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just my opinion, but I think it would look a lot better if you added a spin to the back of the hood.

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32934 is a reply to message #32932] Thu, 25 October 2007 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nicdude wrote on Thu, 25 October 2007 19:20

Just my opinion, but I think it would look a lot better if you added a spin to the back of the hood.



By spin do you mean spine?

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #32940 is a reply to message #32934] Thu, 25 October 2007 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oops, yea. I did.

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thats amazing.are you ganna make it loadable in fable, or do you need help Wink

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It's going to be in Darkened Souls Wink

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Re: Wolf Hood [message #33541 is a reply to message #32647] Thu, 08 November 2007 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what if you used the horns as te fangs? Confused

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Loby-man wrote on Thu, 08 November 2007 22:49

what if you used the horns as te fangs? Confused



Huh?

Oh and yeah I'll get back to finishing this tomorrow or over the weekend ... I've ... ah ... been distracted by character modeling...

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