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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3453 is a reply to message #3452] Fri, 21 October 2005 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
QuidProQuo is currently offline  QuidProQuo
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Thats odd.. well not really I guess. I bet they look really good but would make the game run slower.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3454 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LostInGeneral is currently offline  LostInGeneral
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Yep.

In fact, I've tested all of them.

For example, this is the triumphant one:

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7527/928200574116pm4ky.th.jpg


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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3456 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LostInGeneral is currently offline  LostInGeneral
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Actually, that's the "Y", but I changed the animation to the one where Jack is screaming (at the end of the game)

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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3458 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buccura is currently offline  Buccura
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Location: Your butt =O

How did you do that?

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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3460 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LostInGeneral is currently offline  LostInGeneral
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It's pretty simple. It's just like swapping models.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3461 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buccura is currently offline  Buccura
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Location: Your butt =O

I noticed several other things with E3 in them, such as

UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_GSP
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_OI
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_TE
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_QO
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_BC
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_1
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_2
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_3
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_4
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_5
UI_SCREEN_BACKDROP_E3_KG_SPRITE_6


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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3464 is a reply to message #3456] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
QuidProQuo is currently offline  QuidProQuo
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LostInGeneral wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 15:56

Actually, that's the "Y", but I changed the animation to the one where Jack is screaming (at the end of the game)



Brilliant! Never thought of that.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3465 is a reply to message #3461] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spartan is currently offline  spartan
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Here are some more
UI_FRONTEND_E3_MENU
UI_FRONTEND_LIST_E3_MENU
UI_FRONTEND_PROFILES_MENU_E3
UI_MENU_ENTRY_OPTIONS_E3
UI_MENU_ENTRY_AUDIO_OPTIONS_E3
UI_LIST_E3_PAUSE_MENU
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_KG
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_BC
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_GSP
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_OI
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_TE
E3_UI_QUEST_OVER_MENU_SCREEN
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_SCREEN_KG
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_SCREEN_BC
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_SCREEN_GSP
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_SCREEN_OI
E3_UI_QUEST_COMPLETION_MENU_SCREEN_TE
UI_FAILURE_HELPERS_E3
E3ONLY_SWORD
E3ONLY_SWORD_2
E3ONLY_SWORD_3
Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3466 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buccura is currently offline  Buccura
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Location: Your butt =O

I never could figure out that part. I always was confused on model swapping.

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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3468 is a reply to message #3466] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any way to do that to make a 'Turn on/off streetlamp' expression usable by the hero?
Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3469 is a reply to message #3468] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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I thought you could not edit the animation?

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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3471 is a reply to message #3469] Fri, 21 October 2005 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spartan is currently offline  spartan
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Rogue Agent wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 19:45

I thought you could not edit the animation?

No but you can swap animations

[Updated on: Fri, 21 October 2005 16:53]

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3473 is a reply to message #3465] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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do the E3 swords work?

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3474 is a reply to message #3473] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spartan is currently offline  spartan
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Rogue Agent wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 20:01

do the E3 swords work?


They're not swords they are actual animations used at E3 or so it seems.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3475 is a reply to message #3474] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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anyone tested the E3 Swords animations?

and is it still possible to remove limbs from the hero?


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3476 is a reply to message #3475] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spartan is currently offline  spartan
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Rogue Agent wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 20:13

anyone tested the E3 Swords animations?

and is it still possible to remove limbs from the hero?


Yes LostInGeneral stated that he has tested all the E3 animations.

As for removing limbs for all intensive purposes no.

Though if you swap the mesh of the right handed bowerstone glove with that of the right handed bowerstone bandage.

It will appear as if your character is missing some of their arm.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3477 is a reply to message #3476] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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how do I change the mesh?

I feel an Evil Dead Rip-off coming Very Happy


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3478 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buccura is currently offline  Buccura
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My question is is there a way to remove the neutral, pure evil and pure good faces and keep it always animated?

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3479 is a reply to message #3478] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
QuidProQuo is currently offline  QuidProQuo
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You mean the textures? Yes.. once the texture application is released.. we just have to wait.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3480 is a reply to message #3478] Fri, 21 October 2005 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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well if it possible to swap animations then it could be possible to swap face animations aswell

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3481 is a reply to message #3480] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
QuidProQuo is currently offline  QuidProQuo
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I understood his question as wanting the animations to stay how they are but not wanting the white skin, nerves, tanned skin, ect.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3482 is a reply to message #3481] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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well just swap the animations to the ones you want, should not affect the textures?

Edit: Spelling corrections


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3483 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buccura is currently offline  Buccura
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I'm still trying to figure out how to swap. I have the Fable Tools and HEX editor, I just dont know what exactly to look for when I have both of these load up the graphics.big file.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3484 is a reply to message #3483] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah how do you swap animations?

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3485 is a reply to message #3483] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Buccura wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 21:07

I'm still trying to figure out how to swap. I have the Fable Tools and HEX editor, I just dont know what exactly to look for when I have both of these load up the graphics.big file.


Follow the instructions below

I would write up my set of instructions but seeing how LostInGeneral already has there is no need.

LostInGeneral wrote on Sun, 09 October 2005 15:28

The first thing you should do is find the actual filename.

In your /data folder, you'll find a folder called "Defs". Open it, go to RetailHeaders, and theres a file called meshdata.h. Use a text editor to open this up.

You can look through the file to find what you want, but it's easier just to use CTRL+F. So, once you've found the two files you want (MESH_HERO and MESH_JACK_OF_BLADES_01) you'll notice that beside each of them is a corresponding number. This is their file number, which will be important soon enough.

So, in your hex editor, you can search for both those strings (MESH_HERO and MESH_JACK_OF_BLADES_01) as text, and you'll probably get around five or six results for each (more for the hero, most likely) Look in the later results; these are often the ones in the FileIndex. You'll know if they are because often right after the filename is the directory it's in. So, once you've found the two correct files, you'll notice that before the mesh name is an asterisk (2A in hex) Find this 2A and find the first digits that come after it (aside from zeros, of course). This is the file number in hex format; it's in decimal format in meshdata.h. You can convert them, if you need to, using the Windows Calculator.

Now, simply switch one for the other. Change the hero's number to F61D and Jack's number to CB10. Just remember that if you convert them, they'll always be reversed in the actual file. So, even though 7670 (Jack's filenumber) comes out as 1DF6, it will end up as F61D in the file itself.

Hope that helps.

Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3486 is a reply to message #3485] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rogue Agent is currently offline  Rogue Agent
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so I take the heros animation is ANIM_NEW_HERO?

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3487 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LostInGeneral is currently offline  LostInGeneral
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There are is almost, if not over, a hundred animations for the hero alone.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3488 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Location: Your butt =O

Yeah I noticed as well. Thats one thing they certainly have a lot of detail in for the game.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3489 is a reply to message #3488] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are about 6,750 animations in the entire game. 528 of which apparently belong to the hero

[Updated on: Fri, 21 October 2005 18:46]

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3491 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What interests me is how you obtained that number.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3492 is a reply to message #3491] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I searched for ANIM in graphics.big and that was the total amount of results that I got.

For the hero animations I searched for ANIM_HERO and got back 528 results.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3502 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spartan, I know EXACTLY what "Fae" is. I'll dig around and see if I can find the old magazine article that explained it (I collected lots of game mags that had Project Ego & Fable Articles).

Anyway, from what I remember "Fae" was the realm that the Hero drew his WILL from. I guess it was kind of an alternate dimention or something like that. I even remember that this particular article even stated that at that certain point of developement even the BUTTERFLIES could be targeted and harmed, and they would fly away screaming "ow!ow!ow!ow!". The Hero was also supposed to be able to lose a limb or an eye at this point also.

I'll try my best to find the article, I'm PRETTY SURE it was either Game Informer or EGM.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that MS convinced LH to save all the kewl Project Ego type of content for the XBOX 360, and release Fable just to throw us a bone to chew on for now.


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3504 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LostInGeneral is currently offline  LostInGeneral
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Since it's under the classification of creatures I would doubt that's the case.

"Fae" is another term for a fairy, I believe.


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3505 is a reply to message #2071] Fri, 21 October 2005 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually I think those particular line defines what creature appear in that area, so its probibly the information as to what generally appeared in that area.

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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3506 is a reply to message #3505] Fri, 21 October 2005 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Buccura wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 00:36

Actually I think those particular line defines what creature appear in that area, so its probibly the information as to what generally appeared in that area.


Hence Pixies.



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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3507 is a reply to message #2071] Sat, 22 October 2005 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CS_BANDIT_WIZARD_BATTLE_HERO_ON_FLOOR
CS_BANDIT_WIZARD_BATTLE_HERO_LOOKS_DOWN
CS_RECEIVE_ABLILITY
CS_RECEIVE_ABILITY_INTO
CS_RECEIVE_ABILITY_LOOP
CS_RECEIVE_ABILITY_OUTOF
CS_RECEIVE_ABILITY_STAND
CS_RAISE_SWORD_THEN_STOP
CS_STOP_LOOK_BEHIND
CS_UNSHEATHE_TO_FACE_JACK
CS_FALL_ON_KNEES_SHOT_9_A
CS_INTRIGUED_LEFT_SHOT_5_A
CS_LOOKUP_SHOT_5_B
CS_ON_KNEES_SHOT_10_12
CS_WALK_AROUND_SHOT_1_2_3_4
CS_BEING_PUSHED_FALLING
CS_STEP_BACK
CS_GRAB_HOLD_OF_BARS
CS_LOOKS_AMAZED
CS_LOOKS_SURPRISED
CS_PICK_UP_LEG

Tones more but I don't want to take up the whole page.
Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3508 is a reply to message #2071] Sat, 22 October 2005 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cutscene animations. I've tried a number of them.

What about them?


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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3513 is a reply to message #2071] Sat, 22 October 2005 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some of those cutscene anims are actually used. Smile


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Re: Funny pics of mods [message #3517 is a reply to message #3469] Sat, 22 October 2005 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rogue Agent wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 18:45

I thought you could not edit the animation?


Just a matter of time...



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Re: Interesting things you've noticed while modding [message #3536 is a reply to message #3513] Sat, 22 October 2005 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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OBJECT_CS_INTERACTIVE_BOULDER


I'm quessing this is the boulder shown in the level up strength menu?
Or is it something else IE part of a unused cutscene

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