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| Tattoo bump theory [message #45809] |
Sun, 28 September 2008 00:42  |
Desarial
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Hey, I was just looking at the joker stuff that another user made and it occured to me that being able to put the joker scars into the game would be pretty badass and a desent adittion to the exsisting mod, now I know that the easiest way would be to change up the scars so thtat there's one along the mouth and just give it a bump map to help it seem mot promanent, but would it be possibly to atatch a bump map to a tatto, using a mod simalar to the one which allows for high def tattoos by makign them part of the texture.BIG file. it's just simple speculation is all.
oh and I don't know if anyone was paying attention but sorry for the inactivity and the lack of promised mods, my game crashed, then my computer, twice, lol, and I'm too lazy to install fable(untill now)
edit: tattoo bumb theory? lol, BUMP
Current Projects:
Amber Archons(pending on requester)
Blind Eye(for combanation with scars over the eye)
A complete Sharigan Eye mod(will,normal,evil,blind)(becuase will just isn't enough)
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45826 is a reply to message #45824] |
Sun, 28 September 2008 16:19  |
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scarring and will tats have bump maps defined for them. You could actually edit the hero texture, but that sort of defeats the purpose of a tattoo
so, you could implement a tattoo as a scar, but that's a bit of a stretch. You could implement it as will tattoos, but still not so great
My guess would be to either edit the hero texture, or find a way to add in a CDef to the tattoo
"All of the work, and none of the play, will surely provide for a speedy decay"
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45856 is a reply to message #45809] |
Tue, 30 September 2008 11:19 |
Desarial
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Registered: September 2007
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hmm, idk it would seem that it'sd be alittle easier, I haven't looked into the def editting yet I've been working on textures,but I think I have an idea of how to do this.
on the side, has anyone noticed the lack of bump maps for fable? I mean really, the textures lack so much depth it's almost like they were being lazy, idk I might look into that for most items seeing as alot of things can have a bump map added, but seriously, it would define the game more, possibly even give it some better visual quality.
Current Projects:
Amber Archons(pending on requester)
Blind Eye(for combanation with scars over the eye)
A complete Sharigan Eye mod(will,normal,evil,blind)(becuase will just isn't enough)
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45864 is a reply to message #45809] |
Tue, 30 September 2008 16:56 |
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Lord Mason
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Registered: August 2008
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| Desarial said, |
has anyone noticed the lack of bump maps for fable? I mean really, the textures lack so much depth it's almost like they were being lazy, idk I might look into that for most items seeing as alot of things can have a bump map added, but seriously, it would define the game more, possibly even give it some better visual quality.
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Really aside from the Will mark bumps and scars not much has been bumped. I think that the ageing textures also have bumps. But really where the bumps are mainly absent is the armors and creatures mainly of a couple reasons in my opinion. Reason #1: The DeadlineThe deadline is a common killer of many games. It is the reason the markets are flooded with buggy, seemingly unfinished games. (Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is the most recent offender along with Alone in the Dark.) I discovered earlier that online multiplayer co-op was intended to debut in the first Fable game when I found textures for "Add friend" "Invite to game" "Multiplayer Orb" but was then cut due to the approaching deadline. (Thanks JohnDoe.) This is happening again on a more public scale this time. Fable 2 was intended to have multiplayer cooperative play but has recently been announced that it will not feature cooperative play at the date of release. (Possible download via Xbox LIVE?) Reason #2: Primitive Technology Fable was released in 2004 and then Fable: The Lost Chaptersin 2005 right? The computer version could have potentially been as good if not better than what an Xbox 360 can produce. But they wanted to keep it level with the Xbox version for various marketing reasons. (Similar to why the second you open the box on a new computer it is already obsolete.) At the time the Xbox couln't really handle much more than Halo 2 as far as graphics go. Hence the lack of bumps. Let me remind you that this is merely a hypothesis and not yet a theory.
Hmm... Death Magnetic or Black Ice? So hard to choose.
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45872 is a reply to message #45809] |
Tue, 30 September 2008 19:41 |
Desarial
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despite that our tangent is off topic, I do want to ask about fable 2, you said it won't feature co-op upon release? that was one of the things I was looking for, hopefully they'll release it in the future as an update. and deadlines really do kill games, I can see that theory playing out quite well actually, and the marketing purposes are so-so, I mean, there's alot of games on the xbox and the computer that differ greatly and graphic capabilities, but it's no great loss to the company, idk lionhead tends to leave you wanting more or lacking what they promise to begin with, much like they're other god-game cousin, Maxis.
now back on subject a bit, I would be able to create an easy bump map for most of the textures simply by using an emboss filter on photoshop, it wouldn't be hard, bu ti'm, not one for coding to much, I can but I don't try to hard to.
Current Projects:
Amber Archons(pending on requester)
Blind Eye(for combanation with scars over the eye)
A complete Sharigan Eye mod(will,normal,evil,blind)(becuase will just isn't enough)
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45887 is a reply to message #45856] |
Wed, 01 October 2008 20:39 |
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JohnDoe
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Registered: October 2007
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| Desarial wrote on Tue, 30 September 2008 13:19 |
has anyone noticed the lack of bump maps for fable?
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No. Rocks, grass, age/alignment morphs, many weapons, many creatures, even signs feature bump maps. Even water, snow, ice feature bump maps. While I agree that there could be more, it doesn't bother me enough to do anything about it.| Lord Mason wrote on Wed, 01 October 2008 17:48 |
This is somewhat, in my opinion implying that the game will eventually feature co-op.
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Don't be fooled, this is typical hype. If Fable 2 features the ability to have children, you can look forward to Fable 3 featuring multiplayer.| Lord Mason wrote on Wed, 01 October 2008 17:48 |
I'm not sure if it's possible.
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Good call. Tattoos are applied on top of the base map but does not include bump maps. Quite honestly, I've never seen a tattoo that altered the shape of the skin in real life. The scars idea wouldn't work either, after a few fights you'd have several face tattoos.
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| Re: Tattoo bump theory [message #45903 is a reply to message #45809] |
Thu, 02 October 2008 16:06 |
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Lord Mason
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I could do the bump mapping, I'm just not sure how I would save that to an fmp that would apply it to the hero from the start of the game without replacing something that you'd need to somehow "aquire." (i.e. Will/Age bumps.) If someone could help me out with this it would be great. | JohnDoe said, |
Don't be fooled, this is typical hype. If Fable 2 features the ability to have children, you can look forward to Fable 3 featuring multiplayer.
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Although I can see what your reasoning may be, this was still intended to be in Fable 1 but cancelled. This time around though, it was announced on a large scale, they got people psyched over it. It would be retarded and a poor business decision to not include it somehow. And Fable 2 includes much more than just the ability to have children. You can start parties, take people on dates, and much more. Hope I didn't sound rude, this is just my opinion.
Hmm... Death Magnetic or Black Ice? So hard to choose.
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