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NPC Navigation [message #49024]

Sat, 07 February 2009 20:20

A_symmetry
Messages: 6
Registered: January 2009

I believe Keshire brushed this topic at one time somewhere. I have a question about NPC Navigation and Spawning Buildings.
When I spawn buildings my enemy NPCs walk straight through them. I was wondering how I could apply clippings to my buildings to prevent this. Would I need to modify my NPCs as well? I used chocolate box. I also already tried to make the perimeter around the buildings unwalkable with the editor tools in chocolate box. Alas it has been to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
There's one more thing. In the filler levels, how can I modify my NPCS navigation to actually walk around in the filler? Is it even possible? Can I edit this through .tng files I assume?

[Updated on: Sat, 07 February 2009 22:03]

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Re: NPC Navigation [message #49025 is a reply to message #49024]

Sun, 08 February 2009 00:47

JohnDoe
Messages: 3007
Registered: October 2007

Retired

A_symmetry wrote on Sat, 07 February 2009 22:20

The only modification of the NPCs would be the scripts of those who are going to own and live in the building. Check existing scripts to see how this works.

A_symmetry wrote on Sat, 07 February 2009 22:20

There's one more thing. In the filler levels, how can I modify my NPCS navigation to actually walk around in the filler? Is it even possible? Can I edit this through .tng files I assume?

Navigation information is stored in the lev. ChocolateBox was at one time capable of editing navigation data, and I think AE either still is or was capable of doing this as well. There was a problem though, it was very buggy and limited (most likely why it was removed from CBox).

The best you're going to get until there's a tool for it is doing it yourself with a hex editor. Specifications here. Good luck.

But, I've a suggestion first. Try lowering the Z position of the building to the point that a complete circumference of it is underground. Still might not work, but is worth a try.

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Re: NPC Navigation [message #49029 is a reply to message #49025]

Sun, 08 February 2009 07:37

BayStone
Messages: 144
Registered: October 2005
Location: HMQ

The navmode is still in CBox, but it's disabled because some people might mess up their lev files unintentionally. If you want to use it (at your own risk) open ChocolateBox.ini and Add NavModeOn=true to the Settings section. But the system is not as complete as the system in AE.

The problem is how the navigation data is saved. We're (or maybe just me) missing some key piece of information. From what I can gather it may be related to map size 'cause it seems to work better with square maps.

Busy!

[Updated on: Sun, 08 February 2009 07:39]

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Re: NPC Navigation [message #49040 is a reply to message #49029]

Sun, 08 February 2009 12:33

JohnDoe
Messages: 3007
Registered: October 2007

Retired

Cool, thanks for that info. Smile

BayStone wrote on Sun, 08 February 2009 09:37

The problem is how the navigation data is saved. We're (or maybe just me) missing some key piece of information. From what I can gather it may be related to map size 'cause it seems to work better with square maps.

That would explain it. I couldn't get NPCs to act right in a northern wastes filler (320x288), but I do remember doing creature hub and having it work just fine.

[Updated on: Sun, 08 February 2009 12:33]

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Re: NPC Navigation [message #49066 is a reply to message #49024]

Mon, 09 February 2009 12:48

A_symmetry
Messages: 6
Registered: January 2009

yeah i lowered the z positioning but it didnt work.I also have been experimenting with the Cbox's navigation feature. I like Cbox a lot. It's quick and efficient. So much better than spawing things via .tng files. You're awesome Baystone.

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