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Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13161] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:10 Go to next message
TSF442 is currently offline  TSF442
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I get an error(Object reference not set to an instance of an object)when load an .fmp in fable explorer the only one that does work is bowerstone weapon laws but any other older one(throwing disk)just gives the error I was searching once and I found a post about needing to remake .fmps for newer fable explorer but I don't know if that has anything to do with this.

So does anyone know how to get the .fmps to work(realy wan't throwing disk).
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13162 is a reply to message #13161] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Use an older FE.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13165 is a reply to message #13161] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where do I get an older FE(I made a topic about that before).
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13168 is a reply to message #13165] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hunter would have a copy I imagine.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13169 is a reply to message #13168] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://fabletlcmod.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=545& start=0&

that's beta 2

only allows model switching, no bin stuff

beta 3 alows bin stuff

http://fabletlcmod.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=750& start=0&


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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13172 is a reply to message #13161] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TSF442 is currently offline  TSF442
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There is no download there it says download moved to wiki I go to wiki and theres a download for FE4 so could you tell me somewhere else to get an older version.

Or build me a old .fmp to new .fmp converter(kidding).

EDIT: No download in the second link either.

[Updated on: Fri, 06 October 2006 21:25]

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13173 is a reply to message #13172] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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#3 is older


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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13174 is a reply to message #13173] Fri, 06 October 2006 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marcopolo wrote on Fri, 06 October 2006 21:25

#3 is older



I don't think you understood me.
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13181 is a reply to message #13161] Sat, 07 October 2006 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From Fable Explorer Beta 3 Thread:


***Download removed. Newer version available.


Marco didn't read the threads obviously.

The links to the previous build are removed each time a newer build is released. The fmp version has been rolled with newer releases meaning older ones needed to be recreated, I thought this had been done though.

Basically unless Hunter or someone can give you a copy compatible with the fmp (if this is the problem), your only option is to request a remake of the fmp.


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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13189 is a reply to message #13181] Sat, 07 October 2006 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Satan wrote on Sat, 07 October 2006 06:09

From Fable Explorer Beta 3 Thread:


***Download removed. Newer version available.


Marco didn't read the threads obviously.

The links to the previous build are removed each time a newer build is released. The fmp version has been rolled with newer releases meaning older ones needed to be recreated, I thought this had been done though.

Basically unless Hunter or someone can give you a copy compatible with the fmp (if this is the problem), your only option is to request a remake of the fmp.

Ok so should I pm Hunter.
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13195 is a reply to message #13189] Sat, 07 October 2006 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It just means that either don't have all the files open: text/graphics/textures/game etc. Or something is screwed up in the fmp itself. Older versions of Fable Explorer do not protect against user errors either Very Happy
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13197 is a reply to message #13195] Sat, 07 October 2006 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silverback wrote on Sat, 07 October 2006 12:46

It just means that either don't have all the files open: text/graphics/textures/game etc. Or something is screwed up in the fmp itself. Older versions of Fable Explorer do not protect against user errors either Very Happy

I opened everything and treid it it didn't help but I will try again.

EDIT: It worked it worked it worked it worked thank you thank you thank you thank you im so happy thank you.

[Updated on: Sat, 07 October 2006 12:55]

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13856 is a reply to message #13161] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i got the same problem and i don't know what to do not even the bowerstone one will work arg! Mad

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13857 is a reply to message #13856] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick the Great wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 22:06

i got the same problem and i don't know what to do not even the bowerstone one will work arg! Mad



What Platform? and saying it doesn't work does not help.
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13858 is a reply to message #13161] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok. let me explain. First off, when i try to open anything in FE, the original folder when you first download it, nothing will open except for FE and def. So thats the first problem. Secondly, when i downloaded some of the mods from bluetooth's post, FE said the same message this TSF was getting when i tried to load them in. I'm so confused Sad

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13859 is a reply to message #13858] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick the Great wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 22:11

ok. let me explain. First off, when i try to open anything in FE, the original folder when you first download it, nothing will open except for FE and def. So thats the first problem. Secondly, when i downloaded some of the mods from bluetooth's post, FE said the same message this TSF was getting when i tried to load them in. I'm so confused Sad

Platform = PC or Xbox?
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13860 is a reply to message #13161] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13861 is a reply to message #13860] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick the Great wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 22:13

pc


It should load all the files based on your Registry for the game. So are all the files open in the top left pane?
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #13862 is a reply to message #13861] Thu, 26 October 2006 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silverback wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 22:23

Nick the Great wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 22:13

pc


It should load all the files based on your Registry for the game. So are all the files open in the top left pane?



Top left of FE?


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icon9.gif  Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18450 is a reply to message #13161] Sat, 21 April 2007 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have the same problem, even the things inside files that are open won't load, it just says "Object reference not set to an instance of an object". If I try to load a fmp it says that too. If I open all big, bin and bbb files and load a fmp it still says that. Sad

Found something about that problem
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810098
but, I don't know what to do, that command under resolution does not work (missing files).

[Updated on: Sat, 21 April 2007 01:30]

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18664 is a reply to message #18450] Mon, 30 April 2007 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got the same thing, too. There always object reference is not set. Still get the same thong. What happened. Oh yeah, i heard from my friends that my PC maybe infected with virus, since my Registry Editor won't work. If registry editor won't work, will FE running? I heard that FE load all of your registry.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18666 is a reply to message #13161] Mon, 30 April 2007 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Holy Avenger wrote:

I heard that FE load all of your registry.

No app except Registry checkers look at your entire registry. FE only looks for the entry for Fable's installation path.

Holy Avenger wrote:

If registry editor won't work, will FE running?

RegEdit is merely a tool to view and edit the registry with FE does not need it in order to run but if you can't run it by going to Start>Run>regedit then it may be the sign of a problem as some viruses, etc disable access to it in order to make themselves harder to remove.

As far as your fmp issues go there are a couple of things to check:

* Ensure you have the latest version of Fable Explorer and def.xml
* Ensure all archives are open (game.bin, etc)
* Ensure you are trying to load a mod that is compatible with your version of the game (I.E. don't try to load an Xbox mod on the PC version and vice versa)


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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18782 is a reply to message #18666] Sat, 05 May 2007 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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umm, sorry Satan, but object reference is not set appear not when i try to load an FMP, but when i start running my FE and AE. ANy idea?

Oh yeah, Is it true that .net framework version 3.0 won't compatible with FE and AE?

Can anybody giveme step by step how to install it. I installed it with this step.

1. Rip Final ALbion, place it in Fable\data\level beside the real Final ALbion that has been renamed.
2. Install AE and FE
3. Extract every data in the FE 4.1 zip to my FE directory.
4. Copy latest def.xml (size 797 kb)to FE directory
5. Run FE and AE, and don't work at all.

Any steps things that I missing? Sorry for newbie question but i need it. I want to know how to edit Fable by myself.


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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18784 is a reply to message #13161] Sat, 05 May 2007 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FE and AE run fine under Vista's .net 3 for me though I haven't tried the XP build of it.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18842 is a reply to message #18784] Mon, 07 May 2007 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, yeah. I heard that from beta 3, that you have to set registry point for FE. Is it true for beta 4.1? If yes how do I do this? Plus, can you tell me step by step how you install AE and FE. I want to know, maybe there're slight differences between your method and mine.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18845 is a reply to message #13161] Mon, 07 May 2007 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The registry entry is set by installing the PC version of the game.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #18847 is a reply to message #18845] Mon, 07 May 2007 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did I install FE and AE with proper condition? I did that step by step. Still, I haven't found where do my PC goes wrong.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #70029 is a reply to message #13161] Sat, 01 February 2014 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also got the annoying
"object reference not set to an instance of an object"
as soon as I start Fabel Explorer

I press escape and I get this long error list.

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at FableExplorer.frmMain.DisplayGameBINContents(GameBINArchive archive)
at FableExplorer.frmMain.frmMain_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Mes sage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4984 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorl ib.dll
----------------------------------------
FableExplorer
Assembly Version: 1.0.2430.34824
Win32 Version: 1.0.2430.34824
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/FableTLCMod/FableExplorer2/FableExplorer.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4986 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2. 0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4985 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c5 61934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4985 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0_ _b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
FableContentManagement
Assembly Version: 1.0.2430.34821
Win32 Version:
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/FableTLCMod/FableExplorer2/FableContentManagement.DLL
----------------------------------------
msvcm80
Assembly Version: 8.0.50727.6195
Win32 Version: 8.00.50727.6195
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/WinSxS/x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e 18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_none_d09154e044272b9a/msvcm80.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77 a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
FableArchives
Assembly Version: 1.0.2430.34808
Win32 Version:
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/FableTLCMod/FableExplorer2/FableArchives.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.




Everything worked yesterday, was going to play for 2 hours now and then watch a movie and bed, but ofc I got BsoD when game started and then after reboot this is what is going on

Almost 4 hours into the game, Fable cant load the autosave without "NewItemPack_V2-5" which I used in fable explorer, the only one i used.

So now fable crash every time i try to load my save game and fable explorer crashes every time i try to load it

if I ignore all the error in the fable explorer I try to load "NewItemPack_V2-5" I get :

"Error Loading FMP
The index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less then the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index"


very annoying, thought it was a good game and was starting to enjoy the story and now nothing Sad

[Updated on: Sat, 01 February 2014 17:23]

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #70030 is a reply to message #70029] Sat, 01 February 2014 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First off, congratulations for setting a new necropost record at three months shy of seven years. Seriously, next time, check the date of the last post in a thread in the top right corner of said post. If it's been dead for more than a month, make a new thread.

Moving on, this error is rather frequent with Vista and Windows 7 users who installed Fable to Program Files(x86) and didn't change the directory that FE reads Fable's files from(only easily done with Shadownet FE, by the way). If you've not done that, do so now and try again. If you have... I got nothin'.


Read the site rules, as well as individual thread rules, stickies and announcements, and use search, or you will have smartassy or exasperated ownage rained down upon you by the site's crack team of mods and admins. Also, you can find all you need to get started on modding here.

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Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #70032 is a reply to message #70030] Sun, 02 February 2014 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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asmcint wrote on Sat, 01 February 2014 18:18

First off, congratulations for setting a new necropost record at three months shy of seven years. Seriously, next time, check the date of the last post in a thread in the top right corner of said post. If it's been dead for more than a month, make a new thread.

Moving on, this error is rather frequent with Vista and Windows 7 users who installed Fable to Program Files(x86) and didn't change the directory that FE reads Fable's files from(only easily done with Shadownet FE, by the way). If you've not done that, do so now and try again. If you have... I got nothin'.



thx for the reply

google found this and normal forums have an autolock that close a topic after 2-3 weeks of inactivity if they dont want the old thread used again
This was not locked so ofc I assued it was here to post instead of spamming by creating another thread

Shadownet FE <--- cant seem to find a download via google anywhere

so how do I change that without Shadownet FE ?
Re: Object reference not set to an instance of an object error(FE) [message #70033 is a reply to message #70032] Mon, 03 February 2014 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... You know, we have our own search function independent of Google. Try it some time. Or better yet, you could've checked the tools section, whereupon you would find this stickied topic.

Get the version without sound, as it actually works. Tadaa! Now you just have to change the file path in Shadownet's config file. You will find instructions for this below.

Alright, open up config.xml inside of the folder in which you have Shadownet installed. Look for this line: <UseRegistry>TRUE</UseRegistry>

Change TRUE to FALSE. Now, find the line below.

<InstallDirectory>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fable - The Lost Chapters\</InstallDirectory>

Change the directory listed to wherever you have Fable installed to. You should now be able to use Shadownet to mod the game successfully.


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asmcint wrote on Mon, 03 February 2014 09:04

... You know, we have our own search function independent of Google. Try it some time. Or better yet, you could've checked the tools section, whereupon you would find this stickied topic.

Get the version without sound, as it actually works. Tadaa! Now you just have to change the file path in Shadownet's config file. You will find instructions for this below.

Alright, open up config.xml inside of the folder in which you have Shadownet installed. Look for this line: <UseRegistry>TRUE</UseRegistry>

Change TRUE to FALSE. Now, find the line below.

<InstallDirectory>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fable - The Lost Chapters\</InstallDirectory>

Change the directory listed to wherever you have Fable installed to. You should now be able to use Shadownet to mod the game successfully.


thx for all the help ,I really appreciate it, but it does not work

done exactly as you said, it still say object ref bla bla when you start it, but now it saw def.xml cant be found Sad
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