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Playing as a Female Character? [message #16023] Sat, 20 January 2007 13:29 Go to next message
Seventh Machine is currently offline  Seventh Machine
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Has anyone come up with a way to stop the facial distortion that occurs when you try to use a female mesh? As far as I can tell, no one's posted a method. But chances are, I didn't search with the right keywords. Razz

Anyway, I found out how. Long story short, my sister wanted to mess around as Briar Rose. So, as I'm swapping meshes, dreading the facial scrunch, I remembered something. The "CreatureDef" entry. It had a sub-entry with something like "EExpressions" as it's title. It listed Fable guy's facial animations. So I deleted the list, and continued on with what I was doing. Sure enough. When I played (to test my theory) Briar had her normal face. No errors what so ever.

Here's what I did;

Replaced Fable guy's mesh and his eye mesh and scale, with that of Briar Rose.

Then I went into the Bones folder, and moved the hero bones set to a safe place. (there for, no bones will distort Briar's body)

Next, for realism, I replaced Fable guy's animations, sound and special effects with that of Briar. (by way of the appropriate entries located in CDefs)

I added Briar's sword, by placing the ID of the sword into the field located in the entry "Weapon 1"

Now, here's what I did to "fix" briar's face. Under CDefs, I scrolled down to "CCreatureDef" and followed the link. In the new window, I expanded the list, and selected "EExpressionType Array" and then proceeded to delete the entries, much like how you would go about removing scars and bruises in the "Skin Effects" array.

I then Applied my changes and ran Fable.

My friend Kane is trying it as I type, and will be placing it into a short video, to which I will post a link to, when it becomes available.

EDIT: Kane has sent me the link to the video, you can find it Here (click)

And I also have two images.

Briar Rose's Face
Briar Rose With the Aeons

[Updated on: Sat, 20 January 2007 13:45]

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16025 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 20 January 2007 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kain is currently offline  Kain
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cool thing, but can you show me a picture with the error in her face? i just want to see what the problem was.

my life is hard:

Im German.
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16028 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 20 January 2007 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seventh Machine is currently offline  Seventh Machine
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This is A picture That someone else posted awhile ago. As you can see. the Face is pretty warped.

It seems that, the facial animations used for the main character, interfere with the facial mesh of female (and some male) characters.
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16035 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 21 January 2007 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kain is currently offline  Kain
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she looked like a frog

my life is hard:

Im German.
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16041 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 21 January 2007 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Swap the CAppearanceDef. And swap or remove the CSkeletonMorphDef.


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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16046 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 21 January 2007 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seventh Machine is currently offline  Seventh Machine
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Are you referring to me, Bluetooth? Because I know about the CappearenceDef entry. I just copied the ID over from Briar. As for the Skeleton, I just found it easier to remove the bone files themselves, then to edit or mess with the skeletal entries in the CHeroMorph entry.

Also, the CEntitySoundDef Entry should be replaced/swapped as well. I remember one time, I was using the Dreadwing's CAppearanceDef entry, and forgot to use their sound entry, so every step I took, would trigger the Berserk Growl. It was kind of funny. Smile
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16047 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 21 January 2007 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how do know which is which??? Confused Confused Confused

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16311 is a reply to message #16023] Tue, 30 January 2007 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tankexmortis
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Can you put these changes into a fmp? 'Cause I don't know anything about modding Fable and I'm not having an easy time figuring out what to do.
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #16891 is a reply to message #16023] Thu, 01 March 2007 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
feproductions is currently offline  feproductions
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yeah a fmp would be awsome....
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17142 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 17 March 2007 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
robmortar is currently offline  robmortar
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so where do i download this
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17193 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 18 March 2007 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thehobo is currently offline  thehobo
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He hasn't made it downloadable, because he's trying to fix the errors.

And she looks like she's trying to eat her own head.


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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17378 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 25 March 2007 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yoyoma is currently offline  yoyoma
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So is the mod fixed now and will there be an fmp?
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17402 is a reply to message #17378] Sun, 25 March 2007 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yoyoma wrote on Mon, 26 March 2007 02:13

So is the mod fixed now and will there be an fmp?


No, Seventh Machine hasn't been around for a while, so I doubt if this will be finished.


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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17457 is a reply to message #16023] Tue, 27 March 2007 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nInEtAiL is currently offline  nInEtAiL
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Your the worst explaner ever where the hell are the bone things Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17501 is a reply to message #17457] Thu, 29 March 2007 03:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #17578 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 31 March 2007 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cooleo is currently offline  cooleo
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I got a question. Im trying to change the hero sounds. Like the grut he makes when you swing the weapon to Briars sounds. I changed CEnitySoundDef to the same one in her file 10534 - 1529 but it did not change the sounds.

Im I to change the cdefs in the creature_hero section or are they changed some where else?

Thanks
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #18079 is a reply to message #16023] Fri, 13 April 2007 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Catnasty is currently offline  Catnasty
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So is there something up so that I can play as Briar Rose now? I can't mod either.
=(
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #18091 is a reply to message #16023] Fri, 13 April 2007 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
groo is currently offline  groo
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lol, my friend figured out how to play as lady gray, animations and all....its hilarious Twisted Evil

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #18166 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 14 April 2007 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sniperdesign
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i demand that you tell us how to do that not that i can demand anything with very good results but for those that don't know can you please tell

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Thursday we annoint ourselves with said blood,
Friday is poker night.\" : overheard from a shadow-worshiper
Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #22251 is a reply to message #16023] Sun, 22 July 2007 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy_Avenger is currently offline  Holy_Avenger
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How to change the attack style. I change hero attack style with rival hero attack style, but nothing happened. What's wrong?

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #22257 is a reply to message #22251] Sun, 22 July 2007 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Swap the CAppearanceDef.

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #22747 is a reply to message #16023] Fri, 27 July 2007 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how do you record the game, i mean make a movie out of it?

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #22812 is a reply to message #16023] Sat, 28 July 2007 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The application you use depends on personal preference but most people use Fraps.

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Re: Playing as a Female Character? [message #29654 is a reply to message #22812] Thu, 27 September 2007 19:38 Go to previous message
NEOCHIKEN is currently offline  NEOCHIKEN
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kay i did this just 1 question how do i make my hero able to get "big" again after getting rid of entries in hero morph


also i could not fix the face cuz my eexpressions was already empty


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